Comments on: Early adopters and IDEs (integrated development experiences) http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/early-adopters-and-ides-integrated-development-experiences/ on emerging platforms and the power of aggregation and integration Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:28:31 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Ian Murdock http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/early-adopters-and-ides-integrated-development-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-3158 Ian Murdock Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:03:10 +0000 http://ianmurdock.com/?p=483#comment-3158 While I can't speak to product plans, I can say that automating the creation of IPS repositories from within the IDE is a great example of the "connection developer" notion I mentioned in my post. Imagine you are building a native application in NetBeans or Sun Studio (or, heck, Eclipse). You not only want the traditional edit/compile/debug an IDE gives you, you want publish as well, whether that's publication of your source code to an online community (for developers) or publication of your binary code in a form that can be easily consumed within the target platform (for users). So the "connected developer" notion should allow you to easily do that, publishing not only to IPS repositories (for OpenSolaris) but also APT, yum, etc. repositories for Linux etc. Tie that in to the package management system in the OS (or the plugin center, extension repositories, etc. for other products), and you have the makings of an "App Store" that spans multiple products, making the platform more attractive (because more software is available for it in an easily consumed format) and providing a go to market vehicle for developers that want to deliver applications directly to the users of that platform.. Win win.. While I can’t speak to product plans, I can say that automating the creation of IPS repositories from within the IDE is a great example of the “connection developer” notion I mentioned in my post. Imagine you are building a native application in NetBeans or Sun Studio (or, heck, Eclipse). You not only want the traditional edit/compile/debug an IDE gives you, you want publish as well, whether that’s publication of your source code to an online community (for developers) or publication of your binary code in a form that can be easily consumed within the target platform (for users). So the “connected developer” notion should allow you to easily do that, publishing not only to IPS repositories (for OpenSolaris) but also APT, yum, etc. repositories for Linux etc. Tie that in to the package management system in the OS (or the plugin center, extension repositories, etc. for other products), and you have the makings of an “App Store” that spans multiple products, making the platform more attractive (because more software is available for it in an easily consumed format) and providing a go to market vehicle for developers that want to deliver applications directly to the users of that platform.. Win win..

]]> By: Lally Singh http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/early-adopters-and-ides-integrated-development-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-3156 Lally Singh Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:59:45 +0000 http://ianmurdock.com/?p=483#comment-3156 Oh, I meant the other way around. Will netbeans automate the creation of IPS packages for our software? Oh, I meant the other way around. Will netbeans automate the creation of IPS packages for our software?

]]> By: Luddites or weenies? « niq’s soapbox http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/early-adopters-and-ides-integrated-development-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-3155 Luddites or weenies? « niq’s soapbox Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:41:53 +0000 http://ianmurdock.com/?p=483#comment-3155 [...] and I’m still debugging with print statements“.  That didn’t jump out at me, but Ian Murdock saw it, and agrees.  In such distinguished company as Tim and Ian, I think I can admit to my own luddite [...] [...] and I’m still debugging with print statements“.  That didn’t jump out at me, but Ian Murdock saw it, and agrees.  In such distinguished company as Tim and Ian, I think I can admit to my own luddite [...]

]]> By: Ooga Chaka http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/early-adopters-and-ides-integrated-development-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-3154 Ooga Chaka Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:46:16 +0000 http://ianmurdock.com/?p=483#comment-3154 Practically at the point of using java for systems programming so here goes pfexec pkg install netbeans-desktop ... done ... yay!! now .. can I use dtrace with java/netbeans and build an app with jython/jrbuy scriptable goodness and a xplatform UI (gtk? qt? gecko?, webkit, android?) for osol, linux, bsd, osx, iphone, openmoko, android vista? :-D Then ... hookup via a few groovy javascript extensions to cool services from Yahooo (Sun please buy Yahoo if share price falls further) and badda boom! At least android's vm likes java and netbeans eclipse etc makes java as easy-ish as .NET so ... Practically at the point of using java for systems programming so here goes

pfexec pkg install netbeans-desktop … done … yay!!

now .. can I use dtrace with java/netbeans and build an app with jython/jrbuy scriptable goodness and a xplatform UI (gtk? qt? gecko?, webkit, android?) for osol, linux, bsd, osx, iphone, openmoko, android vista? :-D Then … hookup via a few groovy javascript extensions to cool services from Yahooo (Sun please buy Yahoo if share price falls further) and badda boom!

At least android’s vm likes java and netbeans eclipse etc makes java as easy-ish as .NET so …

]]> By: Shawn Walker http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/early-adopters-and-ides-integrated-development-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-3152 Shawn Walker Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:58:04 +0000 http://ianmurdock.com/?p=483#comment-3152 Lally, Netbeans packages are already available at http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ You should be able to install them by just doing: pfexec pkg install netbeans-desktop ...or from the packagemanager. Lally,

Netbeans packages are already available at http://pkg.opensolaris.org/

You should be able to install them by just doing:

pfexec pkg install netbeans-desktop

…or from the packagemanager.

]]> By: Lally Singh http://ianmurdock.com/platforms/early-adopters-and-ides-integrated-development-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-3151 Lally Singh Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:41:45 +0000 http://ianmurdock.com/?p=483#comment-3151 So it begs the question, when's netbeans going to put out IPS packages for us? So it begs the question, when’s netbeans going to put out IPS packages for us?

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